Reactions to the Blasphemy Challenge

December 19, 2006




December 17, 2006
Reactions to the Blasphemy Challenge
There have been a lot of great video responses to the Blasphemy Challenge. From Catalan to New Zealand, everyone is jumping at the opportunity and happily dissing that wispy bastard: Infidel guys, soldiers, closet cases, the entire CFI community of Central Indiana, humanism itself and even Darth Vader (although I think he was already headed to H-E-double-hockey-sticks anyway). PZ text-blogged his blasphemy, because he already owns the DVD. This blogger also made some good highlight choices.

It's not all sweetness and light, however. The Blasphemy Challenge is controversial with some atheists. Over at the RichardDawkins.net discussion, few are without an opinion.

Free DVD of God Who Wasn't There to first 1000...

Blasphemy Challenge
Richard Dawkins
Brian Fleming - Reactions to Blasphemy Challenge
PZ Meyers: I wanna Go To Hell
A list of sites containing Discussion on Blasphemy Challenge around the web.

Video of Peter Barber, Scientist, on Blaspheme



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Webmaster of Edward T. Babinski accepts the Blasphemy Challenge.

Clarifying what "The Unpardonable Sin" is.

From Debunking Christianity, we have comment by a Christian, and this is my response:

Christian: HE does this by renouncing what he has experienced for a fact and has mental recollection of cos the key operative word is AFTER receiving.

AFTER receiving? My point precisely.

This is what we cannot seem to get through to Christians. We were born again Christians, and we rejected the holy spirit. We denounce, with memory of salvation in mind, of the faith, and the belief. Former Christians. Christians are implying we were never Christians.

Christian: Only a born-again Christian can commit the sin unto death.

Most of us, the majority, were born again Christians, and rejected and do hereby deny, the Holy Spirit. We experienced everything you claim to experience as a Christian.

What is there remaining that fails understanding? We are in fact, the same as any other Christian, but one more, we deny, denounce, reject and with some uttering blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

The Bible says scripture is God breathed, and as a Christian I believed that must be true, I remember the joy, the peace, the comfort I found in "the comforter", and today, I mock my own stupidity that I ever was so guillible to have believed. I deny, with full knowledge of scripture, one word of the Bible is "God-Breathed" or inspired.

Does my blaspheme, satisfy the Christian definition of blaspheme yet?

Christians are finding themselves threatened now, with Atheists and non-believers boldly blaspheming the name of the Holy Ghost.

Denying its existence, and these same frightened Christians are reacting with "Well, that's not really blaspheme", but it is real blaspheme, and uttered by people having a solid understanding of what the Holy Spirit is. Okay?

And if you think that sort of adoescent crap is worthwhile then you're every bit as bad as the worst of the fundies.

In the book of Genesis, humans are given a tree in plain view in the middle of the Garden, to tempt them, inevitably leading to an "unpardonable sin" and death as consequence.

In the new testament, humans are given a Holy Spirit, which they cannot see, touch, feel, taste or hear and hidden from mankind, inevitably leading to the second "unpardonable sin" and when they do what is human, deny its existence... that too leads to worse, eternal torment as consequence.

Man would have been better off under the Old Testament.

Living in fear of magic trees and phantoms is adolescent.

I put that site in the same category as the farting Judge Jones on Dembski's site - somewhere below puerile.

What? People simply stating, "I deny the existence of the Holy Spirit"? I deny it! Many judeo-christiantics deny the existence of the trinity, many Jews... they're quickly condemned to hell, by Christians.

Do you feel it's stooping to lowest levels of fundies, when Jeff Gordon proclaims his belief in Jesus on national television for helping him win the Winston Cup?

Do you feel it's stooping to lowest levels, to hear televangelists e-v-e-r-y Sunday Morning, (so many channels and nothing is on), condemning every person to hell who's not sitting in their congregation?

Do you feel it's stooping to lowest levels, to hear President say, 'atheists ought not be considered citizens'?

But you feel its stooping to low levels when atheists and fellow non-believers 'simply', courageously, and without shame, express their convictions. I think it's un-nerving for most people, to see the individuals who deny the existence of the Holy Spirit, and to hear it from their own mouths, for the first time. Lots of people, not just Madalyn Murray O' Hare, shaking her fist at heaven. Atheists and non-believers have been confined to the closet. (Well, there was Jodie Foster in Contact). Atheists and non-believers coming out.. That's dangerous and most certainly makes people "uncomfortable".

Any law that's a bad law, is a law deserving of bold blaspheme.

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bob pease wrote:
Let me just unpack my Deoscope[tm]

That should be "Theoscope" !

A deoscope is a telescope used to espy the arrival of Banana boats.

There is no such thing as a deoscope, no more than Holy Spirit.

How do you get it through dense skulls, what a _lack_ of belief means?

These guys are so dogged determined deluded to belief "but, you really believe, you are simply in denial... the bible says only a fool denies..."

Cory writes: "The Bible makes it clear that everybody knows that He really exists."

(Thump watermelon to see if its ripe) Well, that's just plain wrong, because not only does not everyone know the "HE" (Christian God) exists, but many have absolutely no reason to question their _lack_ of belief, and the bible is certainly so contradictory and filled of absurdity, it's not a reliable source for even faith.

The bible utterly fails to explain atheism or agnosticism... and even proper deism. The writers were so profoundly ignorant of such things, they believed the only difference in mind could only possibly be "difference in god, difference in doctrine"... rather, some do not believe in a god at all.

But you cannot get this through the Christian skull.
It is impossible to drill this home.

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On 12/22/2006 2:24:59 AM, Frank Walton wrote:
I responded to the "Blasphemy Challenge" here. [link: atheismsucks. blogspot.com/2006/12/rational-responders-are-going-to-hell.html]It doesn't take a lot of guts to say that you're going to a place you don't think exists anyway, you know. It's like hearing a man say, "I have the guts to go to a non-existing torture chamber."

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I responded:
If they say that they don't believe hell exists, this makes them cowards because, like you say, they're going to a place they don't think exists anyway.

So, you and other Christians now accept we truthfully have no belief in hell?!

Relief. If that fact alone is successfully conveyed to Christians, the Blasphemy Challenge will have served one worthwhile purpose of several.

...make a statement that they are not afraid of the Christian hell, so your analysis is pretty much just off topic.

Well, it goes a little farther than this. I'm tired of being accused of "being in denial," "hiding a sin," "ignoring what I know is true," I certainly am not in denial, not hiding a sin, not ignoring... it's as simple as in, I do not believe.

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Sharon,

There's a difference between saying "I don't believe in God" and "I don't believe that hell exists." The Bible makes it clear that everybody knows that He really exists. Doctrinal beliefs (such as hell, eschatology, baptism, etc.) are a different thing. You know and believe that God exists but that doesn't mean you have a belief on certain theological doctrines.

-------------- *As if the God I would believe exists, by default is the Christian one, and ... it's only a matter of "doctinal differences". The difference between the Christian God and the Deity is a mile high and wide in difference. The Christian God, has no more substance than the onionskin paper its' printed on...

Second Reply:

You know and believe that God exists but that doesn't mean you have a belief on certain theological doctrines.

That's because I am a Deist, which is radically different from the Agnostics and Atheists.

Do I fear or believe in Holy Spirit? No. In fact, the God I believe exists, as a Deist, you would call this Deity, the Devil. I do not believe Satan or a devil exists, no more than "the holy spirit". I do not worship God, I do not pray to God. God does not want worship or praise. God is neither holy or unholy. God is neither good or evil. Only greatly misunderstood. Does the Deity care if Atheists mock and scorn the Christian God? No, the Christian God is a vulgar joke to the Deity. The Christian God does not exist. So many religions have evolved, in attempt to define the Deity.

Lost, confused souls.