Rev. Jim Jones was not an evangelical Christian. He was a sworn Communist and Atheist.

To get a little off topic of the normal content posted by Mr. Babinski, I'm taking the liberty to post a little bit of information that's been compiled regarding the "spiritual beliefs" of Jim Jones, leader of the mass suicidal, People's Temple cult from Jonestown (1978).

Jim Jones and Jonestown Sing Soviet Anthem
New audio of Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple singing the National Anthem of the Soviet Union, to which they often refer as their "spiritual motherland." Temple members often sang the anthem after nightly meetings.
There's an entirely incorrect misconception from people who don't read about Jonestown that the Temple members were messainic religious nuts. They were most definitely not. They were communists looking for an exodus to the USSR before their final mass suicide. They were also vehement atheists (Jones ridiculed people that believed in "the sky God"). The PT repeatedly explained that they used religion ("religion is an opiate of the masses") to convert people to socialism.
They were mostly politically minded. They also weren't looking to die. Many thought Jones prior discussions of war and suicide were just part of a long line of dramatic proclamations he'd always made but never came remotely close to consummating through action. Until November 18. Note that Jim Jones had met and was friends with Paul Robeson, who happens to sing the most famous English version of the anthem.

He sure was active in seemingly good causes.
Wikipedia states: "Condemnation of Robeson and his beliefs came swiftly, from both....mainstream black organizations including the NAACP."

To make certain this video doesn't end up in file 13 of youtube, it's available here as well:
Jim Jones and Jonestown Sing Soviet Anthem

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This video too,

Jim Jones: "I decided how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."

The Peoples Temple and Jim Jones devolve in 1976 from a San Francisco political juggernaut secretly harboring designs of world communist revolution to, in 1978, a paranoid North Korean-style enclave in Jonestown. There, they negotiate with the Soviet Union, North Korea and others for a possible exodus. A Soviet delegation visits Jonestown, showering it with praise. Captured on audio, three weeks before Congressman Ryan, NBC and others visit, they vote to commit Revolutionary Suicide to further the cause of Marxist-Leninism. The day before Congressman Ryan arrives, Jones announced to Jonestown (and recorded on tape) he's not passing up the opportunity to shoot him. Two days later, they do precisely as Jones had claimed: The Temple's "Red Brigade" killed Ryan and four others. The only murder of a Congressman in the line of duty in U.S. history. Popular NBC reporter Don Harris is also murdered. Then, just as the Temple had voted three weeks before, over 900 members commit Revolutionary Suicide -- the largest death toll of American civilians in a non-natural disaster until 9-11. They die in a "White Night" -- an emergency meeting of the Temple to discuss options to prevent takeover by outside forces. Jonestown had 84 White Nights before the final one.
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Jim Jones and Jonestown - Devolution from Political Force to Revolutionary Suicide

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Some are already aware of the philosophical ties between Jim Jones and the Atheistic Soviet Union. I'll let the following documentation explain itself, but the question remains in mind, why, for so many years did the liberal media lead the masses to believe Jim Jones was a fanatical "Christian," just as many have accused that Adolf Hitler was a "Christian"? Why do these misconceptions continue to pervade across the web and media. Perhaps until Christians, no longer recognize a Christian. Adolf Hitler and Jim Jones have one thing in common and that is: SOCIALISM. At best, Hitler was a deist, giving benefit of the doubt to the existence of a higher power, but he certainly did not have the makings of a "Christian" in spirit (i.e., the fruits of the spirit mentioned in Galatians). I'm lead to the same conclusion in regard to George W. Bush, who proclaims himself to be "Conservative Christian" in the public eye, but both Sr. and Jr., have been willing participants in the Bohemian Grove's satanic mock sacrifices of humans, at the infamous Bohemian Grove. See video by Alex Jones on YouTube.

Alex Jones - Secrets in Bohemian Grove

People, this is not Christianity!!! and there's nothing at all "conservative" about it. Like Jim Jones and Adolf Hitler, George W. Bush is a sworn Socialist, implementing global "marxist economics" in the name of Jesus. Can somebody say amen?

http://music.edwardtbabinski.us/jim_jones.mp3

One evangelical preacher (above) discusses the problem with Jim Jones, there were no bibles ... no place to pray... what else than Communism? Unfortunately, I have only part of that preacher's voice recorded to MP3 format, and welcome others to download. Perhaps somebody can recognize his voice and tell me who he is. The actual text to the entirety of his sermon, went as follows:

SGH said about 1 year ago:

He said 'I was Jim Jones' attorney.' I said 'When did you find out that he was not the man of God that he was billed to be?' He said 'When I visited Jonestown, when I walked in his so-called church. He said there was no bible, there were no holy pictures, there was no cross. Nothing. And I looked him right in the eye and I said to him 'Why is it there's no bible, and there's no place to pray?' He said 'We don't need that anymore,' and he says 'I am no longer your attorney, and you no longer need me.' And he walked out of there when Representative Ryan flew in to Guyana, the first man he called was Sir Lionel Luckhoo, and asked him to fly with him to Jonestown, he said 'God will not let me go'. If he had have gone he wouldn've been massacred with Representative Ryan, are you listening to me? And I'm going to reveal something to you that possibly the public does not know - Sir Lionel Luckhoo told me that the coroner was a close personal friend of his, and he said that he examined every single one of the bodies, this was not a mass-suicide like the world was brainwashed into thinking, but when that coroner examined the bodies, there was a pinhole in ninety-seven percent of all the bodies, they were injected with a poiso*, it was a mass-murder, because men and women were following a man, and I am going to let every one of you that are here under this tent, you that are listening to this radio broadcast, My God don't follow a man, don't follow a church, if you're going to follow somebody, follow Jesus! Follow Jesus! Look unto Jesus who is the author and the finisher of your fate, the devil is out to destroy every child of God that he can find! Can you shout 'Amen' somebody?''

Sir Lionel Luckhoo's Testimony on Jim Jones, 1983 (9:50 duration)

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The full audio of Jim Jones attorney is available here in its full one hour+ length entirety (12 megabyte download), where you can find Sir Luckhoo discussing Jim Jones' unbelief in God and Communist views around the 24:50 of 1:08:57 time marker. Luckhoo describes Jones as, "Satanist" and that 85-90% of the people at Jonestown were murdered... he mentions Jim Jones communist ideologue, which is no longer a secret on the web.

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Edward T. Babinski wrote: " I have yet to see evidence that Jones started out atheist. I think the lesson of Lenin below also demonstrates how right Machiavelli was in his little book, The Prince, and how useful it is for the ruler to appear religious and use religion to acheive his own selfish ends. I will say that religion is strongly honored in the U.S., and recent presidents have even met with billionaire religionist Reverend Moon, another cult-founding, mind-controlling, money grubbing religionist... That video looks like it opens a whole new can of worms concerning Jim Jones, and how U.S. approval of religion just for religion's sake can go too far, blinding people to charismatic religious leaders and their lies, whether they collection money and followers in the name of greed, or of communism. I think Jones also chose South America since leftist ideas were more common there...Also popular in Latin and South America are things like Liberation Theology, a CATHOLIC VERSION OF SOCIALISM and egalitarian thinking,..."

Sharon: Ed, you're right in regard to what you say about people blindly following a man or churches. As the one evangelist warned about Jim Jones, and it really _does_NOT_matter whether he was Christian or Communist (although its established he was communist) ).... Atheist fanaticism is not the answer to the world's problems, nor is blind faith -- as this preacher stated, (and I speak from experience of being raised in a cult myself), Such a gem of truth for Christians to learn, before its too late :

"...it was a mass-murder, because men and women were following a man, and I am going to let every one of you that are here under this tent, you that are listening to this radio broadcast, My God don't follow a man, don't follow a church, if you're going to follow somebody, follow Jesus! Follow Jesus! Look unto Jesus who is the author and the finisher of your fate, the devil is out to destroy every child of God that he can find! Can you shout 'Amen'somebody?''

**I recall growing up in the Worldwide Church of God (which was carefully followed and researched by Christian cult-tracking groups)... you know what's odd? I can tell you lots about Herbert W. Armstrong, but I can tell you really nothing substantial that he ever taught about Jesus.

Who is this person "Jesus" that these self-proclaimed "one true apostles" do their self-gratification in the name of? Like his son, Garner Ted Armstrong, caught in another garden variety sex scandal... very much like the homosexual evangelist Ted Haggard.

It is written, spoken from the mouth of Jesus himself, that in the end time, they (both male and female, God will pour his spirit out on them) will prophecy and they will be taught by God himself... not a man, and not a church!!! Praise God. The heck with "organized religion" and that all male pedophile priesthood responsible for murdering faith and driving the faithful away in disillusionment from God.

Fresh 30 Year Old Kool-Aid: Jim Jones And Barack Obama’s Evangelical Marxism"
"...November 18, 1978, after he killed 918 people, somehow or another he went from what he was known as especially in his home area of San Francisco, he moved in the eyes of Americans from an American leftist to an evangelical Christian fanatic. It was the Christian in him that did it. We’ve seen this happen over and over and over again, socialist dreams ending in ghoulish nightmares and then conveniently shifted. They shift everything into a commentary on organized religion and how evil organized religion is. It’s important for those who have eyes and those who have ears to hear and eyes to see that they see history beginning to repeat itself. Even the Nation magazine represented at the time, the Temple — Jim Jones’ Temple — was as much of a left wing political crusade as a church. Let me say that again. “The Temple was as much a left wing political crusade as a church.” I want you to see if you can put any of the people that you are currently seeing out in today’s political landscape into any of these characters from 1978. In the course of the 1970s the Jim Jones church social program grew steadily more disaffiliated from what Jim Jones came to regard as fascist America.
Jim Jones was against fascist America and their social programs drifted rapidly towards outspoken communist sympathies, so much that the last will and testament of the people’s temple, the people’s temple and its individual members left notes. They bequeathed millions of dollars in assets to… do you know? The people, 918 of them that were killed by that crazy religious Christian preacher, after they drank the Kool-Aid, who did they leave their millions to? The Soviet Union. As Jones expressed to a Soviet diplomat upon his visit to Jonestown months before the suicides took place, quote: For many years we have let our sympathies be quite publicly known that the United States government is not our mother but the Soviet Union was our spiritual mother land.
I’m trying to get my arms around the spirituality of the former Soviet Union. “Jim Jones was an evangelical communist who became a minister only to infiltrate the church with the gospel according to Marx and Lenin. He was an atheist missionary. He knew he could bring the message of socialist redemption to Christians. Quote: I decided how can I demonstrate my Marxism.
This is Jim Jones speaking. “The thought was infiltrate the church.”
Try to think back. Is there anybody that you have heard that is preaching Marxist philosophies in church? Is there anyone who is bringing the Marxist philosophies and doing it with anger and bitterness against the United States? Have you seen anyone like that on the horizon? Have you seen anyone who is influencing others, whoever those others may be? /EXCERPT

Far cry from the misconception that Jim Jones was a "fanatic religious leader," never once did the liberal (leftwing/marxist influenced) media try to correct that misconception that Jim Jones was in fact the opposite, a Communist fanatic... and they will go on saying Jim Jones was a "Christian" along with Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler and George Bush... diluting the truth, until nobody even recognizes what Christianity even means anymore.

I found the Luckhoo speech at the following source: 12 megabyte download

Like Hitler, setting himself as a "Messiah" ... like Lenin and Josef Stalin... murderous socialist messiahs.

The Testimony of Sir Lionel Luckhoo
"Since the thirtieth anniversary of the Jonestown massacre/suicide is coming up on Tuesday, it’s good to rerun a podcast from last year: the testimony of Sir Lionel Luckhoo, Jim Jones’ lawyer and one of the world’s most successful trial attorneys. Sir Lionel talks about his relationship with Jim Jones and how he ultimately came to find his Saviour and Lord."
"The testimony of Sir Lionel Luckhoo, the Guyanese lawyer and diplomat. He held the Guinness Book of World Records place for the largest number of successive murder acquittals (245). He accepted Christ as his Saviour in the midst of his defence of Jim Jones before the Jonestown massacre in 1978. He gave this testimony in August 1983 at a meeting of the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship International in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

There are Saints Among Us...

"My God don't follow a man, don't follow a church, if you're going to follow somebody, follow Jesus! Follow Jesus! Look unto Jesus who is the author and the finisher of your fate, the devil is out to destroy every child of God that he can find! Can you shout 'Amen' somebody?"

King James Bible
It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
~ John 6:45

http://music.edwardtbabinski.us/jim_jones.mp3



Sinead O'Conner was made infamous for her iconoclastic assault on the Pope and Catholic coverup for the pedophile priesthood. But was Sinead guilty of "ripping God" or merely thier abominable relic worship, as Woolsey Teller notes in Atheism and Jesuit Duplicity on the swindle of Roman Catholic relic worship:

Speaking of Roman Catholic relics, Joseph McCabe remarks:
"There seems to have been enough milk of the Virgin -- some of it was still exhibited in Spanish churches in the nineteenth century -- preserved in Europe to feed a few calves. There was hair enough to make a mattress. There were sufficient pieces of 'the true cross' to make a boat. There were teeth of Christ enough to outfit a dentist (one monastery, at Charroux, had the complete set). There were so many sets of baby-linen of the infant Jesus, in Italy, France, and Spain, that one could have opened a shop with them. One of the great churches in Rome had Christ's manger-cradle. Seven churches had his authentic umbilical cord, and a number of churches had his.foreskin (removed at circumcision and kept as a souvenir by Mary). One church had the miraculous imprint of his little bottom on a stone on which he sat. . . . One church had Aaron's rod. Six churches had the six heads cut off John the Baptist.... Every one of these things was, remember, in its origin, a cynical, blasphemous swindle; and Rome was the great trading center. All the wriggling of all the G. K. Chestertons and all the Jesuits and Paulists in America will not obscure that. Each of those objects was at first launched upon the world with deliberate mendacity." (The Dark Ages, p. 55.)

When men put relics before the worship of God, what is God's view of such unholy relic worship? i.e., a snake on a pole, a piece of paper! --a picture of the pope -- as priority above the ripped anus-flesh of innocents defiled by Priests... such things are done in the name of God??! Unrighteous, wicked priesthood are guilty of driving people away from God, and a loss of faith.

The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole". The Israelites then began worshipping the snake on the pole, and thus God commanded the pole destroyed. (2 Kings 18:4). That's what God thinks of their Catholic relic worship.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me!
Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image!
Thou shalt not take The Name of The Lord in vain!

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
~ (Exodus 20:3-17 (also Deuteronomy 5:7-21)

Why have Catholics failed to know and obey, the first three cardinal commandments of God?

2 Kings 18:4 (King James Version)
He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

Such men have proven themselves unworthy to either teach or discern any longer between good and evil.

Therefore,

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. (John 6:45, KJV)

Likewise, be advised...
"And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
~ Acts 2

Peace to Sinead O'Connor, she merely did the Lord's bidding.